Transformative Power of Core Values - Episode 89

Have you ever felt the magnetic pull of your inner compass, guiding you towards your true purpose? That's the heart of our enriching conversation with Andrea, a leadership trainer and coach who lights the way in understanding how our core values shape our personal and professional worlds. This episode of Lift One Self podcast offers a sanctuary for listeners to reflect, align, and discover the power of core values through Andrea's seasoned perspective and my own transformative experiences.

Embarking on a journey of self-discovery can be as daunting as it is exhilarating. Andrea and I navigate the symphonic blend of growth and values, sharing stories of evolution and the emergence of intentional optimism. Through tales of personal change and the wisdom of our guest, we uncover the dynamic nature of values like freedom, community, and authenticity. These guiding stars are not just ideals to aspire to but living principles that redefine our paths and push us to explore the unknown fearlessly.

But what happens when we ignore the signals that our mind and body send us? I open up about a moment of vulnerability at a networking event, which becomes the portal to a deeper understanding of the need for authenticity and self-care. Andrea and I dissect the sometimes challenging balance between honouring our internal world and the demands of our external one. By the end of this episode, you'll be equipped with the insights needed to carve out a path that not only resonates with your core identity but also energizes and empowers you to embrace sustainable, authentic growth.


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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Welcome to the Lift One Self podcast, where we break mental health stigmas through conversations. I'm your host, nat Nat, and we dive into topics about trauma and how it impacts the nervous system. Yet we don't just leave you there. We share insights and tools of self-care, meditation and growth that help you be curious about your own biology. Your presence matters. Please like and subscribe to our podcast. Help our community grow. Let's get into this. Oh, and please remember to be kind to yourself. Welcome to the Lift One Self podcast, andrea. I'm so thankful you're here with me.

Speaker 2: 0:45

Thank you. I am too. I'm eager to see what we can do together here.

Speaker 1: 0:49

Yes, I'm looking forward to the magic. Will you join me in a meditation? Absolutely, and for the listeners listening in or you may be watching. A lot of times people listen to the podcast while they're driving or running or doing some kind of physical activity. So when I asked to close the eyes, I would ask you not to do that, because I want you to stay safe and use your visual concentration. Yet the other prompts you're able to do internally for yourself. You don't always have to keep your eyes closed for this.

Speaker 1: 1:23

So, andrea, I'll ask you to close your eyes with me and begin breathing in and out through your nose, and you're going to bring your awareness to watching your breath go in and out through your nose. You're not going to try and control your breath. You're just going to observe it, becoming aware of what sensations and feelings that are going on internally. And as those sensations and feelings rise up, don't push them down, just let them come up. You're safe to feel. You're safe to let go, while still keeping your awareness and focus on your breath. Surrender the need to control, release the need to resist and just be. Be with your breath, be in the now, keeping your awareness on your breath, allowing yourself to drop into your body, into the present moment, still staying with your breath, dropping more into the body, dropping into the present moment, now, at your own time and at your own pace, while still staying with your breath. I'm going to ask you to gently open your eyes. How's your heart doing? It's good. Can you let the listeners know who Andrea is?

Speaker 2: 3:08

Andrea is a spunky lady. She is all about being welcoming to others and sharing her wisdom with others, and I would love to give each and every one of your listeners some hope today as we talk, that they might find some guidance, and I do that through my own personal work as a leadership, transformational leadership trainer and coach, and I'm just happy to be here.

Speaker 1: 3:46

I'm just happy to be here. So when we spoke before the podcast started recording, we said that we would get into core values. It is a word that's used a lot for transformation and change. Yet I'm sure as myself when I started to learn this there's probably some listeners that are like okay, core values, what are they and why are they important and what can?

Speaker 2: 4:14

they do for me as change. So can you bring us into this dialogue and help to give some knowledge to these listeners? Sure, the prevalence of talk about core values out there is encouraging on one hand and almost confusing on another, and I think the first place to start is to understand there's a difference between personal core values and organizational core values. Anything that is in an organization is really more along the lines of a mission and a vision, whereas your personal core values are an internal compass. They are the principles and the guiding priorities that are non-negotiables for you that nobody else has. You might end up with the same core values spoken out loud as someone else, but they are going to show up differently for you and you're going to have a little bit of a different definition of them. So being able to say they are the internal guidelines that allow you to navigate everything that happens in life with your own authority and your own authenticity intact is a really, to me, important way of defining them, so that we're starting in the same place.

Speaker 2: 5:20

Anything outside of you is something that you value your family, your friends, even your spirituality. A lot of times, especially if it's in a structure like a religion, those things are things that we value, whereas our core values are kind of the things that we're just born with, and when we look back on them and the work that I do with people, a lot of times they'll show up and people will say, oh, that's why this, as a child like, for me, my top core value is freedom of thought. It's not just freedom, it's freedom of thought. And when I look back I understand now why my mother said you were the quintessential strong-willed child. Yeah, don't tell me what to think, right? So I think does that give you a good starting place for how we can talk about them?

Speaker 1: 6:08

Yeah, Of course, that's the thing I think. You know. When people start talking about core values, they think, well, it was everything that was put inside me not recognizing okay. Well, yes, our family and our culture, and you know, the institutions may place some values in you, yet you get to decide what is going to be that core value, how you want to show up and how you're relating with yourself and listening to tap in Like I, I have an internal compass and it's like, yeah, like where do you want to be guided and and what is it that you want to bring forth in your life?

Speaker 1: 6:51

Cause we can have a lot of dreams and you know the buzzword is manifestation right now. However, in that you're going to have to take action, because you can talk a lot about things, you can dream, and it feels really ecstatic, yet it's to bring that out into the reality, into the real world, with actions. So you mentioned that in our message that it's unburying core values inside you. I want to ask the question can you create values for yourself, or was it always innate and it's just that you're going to uncover what's inside already?

Speaker 2: 7:29

I think it's the latter, I think it's what's innate in you, it's the non-negotiables, and I even start a lot of times with people saying the fastest way to get a good jump start on what your core values are is to look back over the last week or month at the things that really angered you and the things that brought you lots of joy, because the things that are opposite of the things that angered you is probably something that's a non-negotiable, Unless it's something that, like you said, these are things that people have put in us. I call those our ABCs, our assumptions, beliefs and conditioning, and being able to kind of break that down and say where did this come from? Where did this? If it's something that somebody else taught me, then I need to look at that as a potential belief. And the difference between beliefs and core values is beliefs are changeable, Beliefs are. I mean, ask anybody who's changed political parties or changed religions. Beliefs are very changeable, whereas your core values really aren't.

Speaker 2: 8:24

But what I have discovered, even in my own work, because I started with core values back in like 1995 with Franklin Covey Are you familiar with Stephen Covey?

Speaker 2: 8:35

I have my actually 93 or 94 governing values laminated with packing tape that shows.

Speaker 2: 8:44

That's something that I started working on long ago. But what I realized is that a lot of times we'll see them on the surface as because my top one then was just freedom. It was just I don't want to be controlled by anybody else, I don't want to have a job. But the reality is, as I have grown and gained awareness and learned more about myself, I was able to dig down a little deeper and further clarify like getting the dross off of gold or taking your butter and clarifying it for a good lobster or a good steak dinner, you know, getting the excess, the water out and it becomes more and more clear that for me it was freedom of thought. So I personally believe these are things we uncover, which is why that's the way I talk about them. Anything we decide on, we can decide to act on those beliefs or those core values, but those actions need to be fueled by them rather than deciding I'm going to have that as a value, because then it becomes something outside of you automatically.

Speaker 1: 9:47

Do you think because I think sometimes people will see the characteristics of other people and say, well, I want to show up that way. So is it times that we can mimic other people's values, core values and like instill it in us, or does it bring a curiosity of further finding out what's already inside you that you can make it look like that other person that you see externally?

Speaker 2: 10:12

Yeah, I think that it can be both ways. Sometimes we see that in another person and realize it resonates with us. I was a musician growing up and so it's like, as we got ready to get play for the band symphony orchestra, it was like we had to have this tuning fork and we needed to all tune to the same thing. So I think a lot of times when we, when we see someone else acting out in a certain way, we realize that's kind of hitting that same note for us and we're kind of in that same tuning resonate, we resonate with that very well. But I think, on the other hand, the, the three pieces of my business are know yourself, which is core values, know how to communicate that, which I'm a disc consultant, which is communication and leadership. And then the third piece is live it out in a way that is beautiful and is gracious, and I call that intentional optimism, which is the name of my business. And so those are the principles and the priorities and the mindsets that help us live out our core values in a way that is honoring to them. And so I think it's a both and I think it can be.

Speaker 2: 11:13

Sometimes we see that in another person and realize, oh, all my life I've been wondering, and that's really that just resonates with me, and so it can be a great place for that my favorite word, curiosity to really start, and I call my. I say I have, I've had terminal curiosity, so it's like constantly digging deeper, but at the same time it could be that it's just I just want to show up that way and that's how business core values work for us, or organizational core values work for us. This is how we want to live out the work that we do, or this is how I want to show up, and there's nothing wrong with that. It might be an extension of your core value, but it's probably not your core value now for those that curiosity.

Speaker 1: 11:55

I use curiosity a lot with my clients because a lot of people have been disconnected from it so they are not willing to go into the unknown, the uncertainty, and you need curiosity to go into these spaces without fear freezing you and stopping you from taking those steps. Yeah, what I'm hearing you say is, with core values, just because you identified it, it does not mean that you're not going to continuously refine that and to go deeper, to give it more language and more precision of it being able to really access it. Because, like you said, freedom is such a broad spectrum and it can be in definition of almost everything. Where it's like, no, you got to be specific of exactly what that is, because the mind will just go all over the place with, well, well, you want freedom, so let me eating this and that, and it's like no, no, no, it's this specific place. There's always a continuous journey to support those pillars of your core values. So how would that look like long term?

Speaker 2: 13:07

So I can give you my example. And then I have a client that I worked with this last year who has also done a really good job with this For me. I thought my top core values four years ago were community, freedom and authenticity. And authenticity has remained. But freedom has gotten further defined because I realized it wasn't just that I didn't want to be in a corporate job. I mean, I spent 25 years in higher education, administration and operations, so in schools of medicine and research and research administration, I'm okay with actually following rules. I'm okay with actually following rules. I'm okay with someone else giving me a paycheck. I don't prefer it. I'm now self-employed.

Speaker 2: 13:46

But part of that was I realized it wasn't so much the need to not be at someone else's beck and call or something. It really had more to do with my thought process, because when you're in a large institution, they're moving in a specific direction and as a manager of over 20 people, I needed to move our department in that direction. And sometimes I didn't agree with it and sometimes I said, no, this is not, this does not promote flourishing, this is all about managing the status quo and I finally had to recognize that. But the other piece that I thought community was my top core value. I realized I even tried to create, I created a Facebook group and I had over almost 500 women in there but it just wasn't meeting my need and I'm a missionary kid, a pastor's wife, so I have church, community, but then I have family. But then I went through a deconstruction process and realized all the stuff that I thought was community was not, and had to kind of reevaluate all that. And it wasn't until a fellow coach looked at me and said it sounds like you're describing belonging and I said oh, yes, and I mean I still get called chills thinking about it and it may get further refined than that, but just walking through that process of critically thinking, looking at my beliefs and conditioning and assumptions, helped me to see it wasn't community I wanted.

Speaker 2: 15:06

I was using community as an outward expression of that need to belong, which is a perfect example of what we just talked about. So my client last year, and when I walk people through an exercise, if they just do a simple download or my course or I coach with them, one of the things they do is they come up with like I call it, the kitchen sink. It's like all these different words and then we kind of categorize them, and one of the things she did was she kind of wrote out a mission statement using some of the words that were other key words that seemed really important to her. So it's not just freedom as a word, it's no one tells me what to think. This is how I show up and I think critically about things and so being able to take that process deeper. But I don't want to scare anybody to think that you have to go that deep on your first pass.

Speaker 1: 15:58

You, don't you really don't.

Speaker 2: 16:00

This is something that is at your pace and I'm sure, as a coach and working with your clients, you probably use something similar, a phrase similar to this, that we have we know what we know when we know it, we have the awareness we have when we have it and we move at the pace that our awareness allows us to move. But just getting started starts a process. I've not seen anybody that was really interested in personal growth that didn't continue to go deeper. I mean, there have been some people who have been almost compelled to go through it as a leadership workshop or something like that. They're like, yeah, this is great, but any of my clients that have done it have used it in their boundary setting, their personal relationships, their work, how they align to what they do, whether or not they need to be in that organization. It's an extremely valuable tool to have.

Speaker 1: 16:48

Yeah, and what I'm hearing because what I help my clients with is really understanding their biology, understanding their nervous system. And the nervous system, again, is that awareness that if it doesn't have safety, it ain't budging nowhere because it has fear. And the nervous system, again, is that awareness that if it doesn't have safety, it ain't budging nowhere because it has fear. And it's like you have not disarmed the threat inside. So that's why I start these, these podcasts to, with the meditation, to remind people, like daily, to engage with your internal biology, because you may be putting yourself in places where, yeah, I want all this change, yet you haven't created the safety within your body to say we're okay and going in these uncertain, to these unknown places, yeah, and I love how, like you said, your authenticity has always been there, because what I teach you know my, my and myself I always have to remind myself you can want to be authentic, all you want. Yet if there's safety, the nervous system is going to access safety. And so then, when you come back and you see like I wasn't authentic to myself and this, you have to look at the context. Well, was safety an issue that you couldn't say certain things, or you couldn't express, or you were dimming yourself or whatever. You know, the experience was it's always again, what is the safety? So, again, as you said, like until you're ready or when you know better, you do better. And just because you know it does not always mean that the doing will. It takes time for that to catch up and to align. So it's really having a grace and a kindness with yourself.

Speaker 1: 18:24

I understand the Western world. We are a microwave society that wants to take a pill and arrive to perfection and we have it all together where that is a wall of suffering that you will continuously bang into and not allowing yourself to have this human experience of allowing it to be messy. Yet when you have that curiosity you can be engaged of oh, I learned and oh, this was a mistake and I'm not going to do this and this is a bit messy, messy, yet how can I reorganize this so that I can move through this without cutting off the joy and the play and just feeling vibrant in your own day-to-day, which is work at first? If you haven't explored any of this territory like anybody that has gone to the gym in the first few weeks, there's muscles you've never engaged with before, their, your cardio, all these kind of things, and it's like this sucks, and it does.

Speaker 1: 19:26

Personal growth sucks for a little bit. Yeah, once you start getting the hang and you start using certain muscles that feel counterintuitive and you switch it, it's like rewiring it. It's like rewiring and instead of going outwardly, as we've been programmed, you go internally to find out what is working with my energy, what's working with my biology, how am I not separating or attacking myself for the experiences that are going on? Does that?

Speaker 2: 19:54

make sense. Yes, as a matter of fact, if you don't mind, yesterday I'll tell you something that happened to me in this exact area and my husband and I lived in Baltimore County for 12 years. Oh, that's rich. We lived in Essex, which is one town over from Dundalk where the Key Bridge dumps into on the north side. My son is adopted and he was in Dundalk when we found him, and we, because we lived on the Beltway of 695, we drove every when we moved in and when we left Baltimore. That's the way we took. There were times it was closed because the winds were too high, but that was just. It felt like there were so many memories associated with that and the people that are there. My son's birth mother lives not far from there. I mean just all of that. And I was on my way to a networking meeting yesterday. Oh, I guess it was what is.

Speaker 1: 20:49

Yeah it was yesterday, I think it was Wednesday.

Speaker 2: 20:51

Oh, tuesday. Yes, it was Tuesday morning, so it wasn't yesterday. Yesterday I was recovering but I was on my way because I am personally growing my business more so locally, with getting very involved in local networking events and the chamber and that kind of thing, and this was an entrepreneurial event where I meet good people and have really good experiences. And this is all a piece of like understanding where your body is when you say I'm going to grow. And my husband came in as I was like making my coffee to walk out the door and said what just happened and showed me the video and my brain said I have to go now and just shifted it over and put it in a box and I got down there. I met my friend that I was parking with and we walked to the event and I sat there and about cause it started at eight, so about nine, nine to 15, my back started getting really tight and my head started pounding and my shoulders started cramping up and just like into my ears and I would like what is going on here and it took me a while to figure it out. I mean, I walked through my five senses protocol cause I have suffered in plenty times in the past and hauled out of my office on a gurney at the University of Virginia Medical Center in the middle of a panic attack, because I didn't. I couldn't feel my hands or feet. So I went through my own protocols. Like I can taste my coffee, I can see this, like you know you've I'm sure you've taught that how you can walk through those five senses.

Speaker 2: 22:16

And it wasn't until I got down to I can feel, you know, my, my pants, or I can feel this chair, that I realized this is my body telling me that I really need to deal with that really stressful thing. And so, in order to not, I knew I couldn't stay and I mean it was. Fortunately it was right at the end and I turned to my friend, who's also a coach, and I said I need to go and she said you don't look okay. And I said I'm not, and I think it's because I wasn't dealing with this and my body is telling me I have to, because I was not in a safe place to just weep, you know. And so she gave me a big hug, I cried a minute and by the time I got to my car I was much better, but it took most of the day to recover from that, because my body was saying, andrea, this is a bigger deal than you think it is and you need a safe place. So I came home and talked with my husband and so you know, then I learned more about the situation.

Speaker 2: 23:11

But, trying to be in a growth space, my body was like no, no, no, no, we can't do this, we have to shut down. So that is a perfect example. But also knowing that being true to my core values, of nobody can tell me what to think, I'm going to belong no matter what and I'm going to be authentic in this situation, meant that I could say to my friend I'm not okay, I have to do this thing and I'm going to leave now. And she said text me when you get to your car. So that's, I think, is a good real world example of how sometimes it can be a real challenge. But we need to honor that in ourselves and I think part of honoring our core values helps us tap into that biology aspect, our neuro system, a lot more readily than we can without it. And before I didn't I mean that was when I was carted out on a gurney, right. It's like I had no idea that my core values were being that disrupted in that job, and so I hope that's a helpful example.

Speaker 1: 24:08

Of course, it gives people relatability of understanding and you know people hear this and it's like it took you years to understand your biology and understand your core values, to see. Wait, these are things that are happening. I'm not going to ignore it anymore just to keep doing the worldly thing of going. It's like I got to take care of my inner home and it was a very impactful thing. Like I'm here in Canada and I heard it and I was like, oh my gosh, the amount of people that are impacted. And then it becomes the trust of all humans of like.

Speaker 1: 24:43

Now ships are losing control and dismantling bridges, and so you know it's all this stuff that we have to process, that it's not just easily swept away. If you are really understanding your inner process and wanting to be in your body, a lot of people are still stuck in their head so they can do the robot and keep moving. But when you start coming back into home and I love that, you know you said community, but you changed it back to I need a sense of belonging, Like it's the belonging, and that I belong within my body. It's not that I need to belong externally. I need to stop separating from myself just to feel a sense of belonging with other people and put myself in spaces that I didn't even realize were draining my energy.

Speaker 1: 25:29

So thank you for that vulnerable explanation and real time of what it looks like to tap in and how long it took for you. Yet, and you were also in a situation that a lot of us would be like no, no, no, I can't leave this. This is part of my growth, this is part of finances and networking and an appearance to like I'm supposed to have it all together where it's like. No, like my authenticity. If I don't take care of me, how can I be relatable to other people? And that's what you want to bring forth, and I can hear that by you sharing that Sure.

Speaker 2: 26:07

And I think too, for some people they may relate to that on a like I'm not sure I know how to deal with that yet. But one piece that I share with others, because we still we talked about this we work from the outside in all of us. Do we start there? We start with checklists, we start with what am I seeing? And one of the things that I help people understand is people that do not act in accordance with their core values a lot of times are what I would call disempowered, right.

Speaker 2: 26:35

You might look at your life and say, well, how do I know, right? Well, maybe you have responsibility with no authority. Maybe you are consistently compromising on your own self-care or your own principles and the things that upset you. You may feel stifled or unsupported. You might be bored in your job or even in your life. You might feel alone.

Speaker 2: 26:58

And for me, just that piece of belonging it's like I can always say I belong to me. Therefore, I can always say I belong to me, therefore I belong right. And so being able to say I don't want to live by imitating other people's principles and other people's priorities. I don't want to live that way. I want to define for myself what's sustainable that's another piece about core values is that when you talk about energy, it builds. It is a renewable energy source. To understand who you are, and then you get to act with authority. From your own understanding, you have the ability to work in situations where you can live out your passion or your convictions, which gives you confidence to then do it some more, and so just starting from the beginning gives you just a little bit more to keep going deeper and deeper, yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:50

And when I say energy, I know sometimes some people might be, oh, that's just a woo-woo thing, and it's like, no, there's no energy, your nervous system runs off of energy. So say that all of a sudden you are putting a programming of a value that you want to be this way, and then you're going and putting yourself in a situation that goes contrary to that. Your body is going to fight you and drain down the energy to try to bring you in, to alert you like this is not what you really want. And so when people are like, oh, I'm fatigued, or I'm easily angered, or any little thing is irritating me, or I just want to shut down, or I'm on the social media just trying to numb, or alcohol, these are all things that your body's trying to communicate to you and it's trying to show you the energy. Yet if you're not paying attention you're just numbing. So those, once you understand those core values, you work with your biology, not against it.

Speaker 2: 28:54

And my Facebook group was a perfect example of that. Right, it was called Intentional Optimist and it was very happy and people wanted to be in there and they invited their friends. I found it to be nothing but a drain and I didn't want to go on Facebook and I didn't want to go in my group. It's like I'm supposed to be running this group, I'm supposed to want to be in there, and that was a really good example of it's something that really drained my energy and a lot of times people think I did this when I first got out of college. People think that if we just work harder at whatever we're doing, then it will get better, we'll get recognized, we will master whatever skill we haven't mastered yet.

Speaker 2: 29:38

And I literally got sat down nine months into my first job and I was told you have to be here because I was showing up. I was in California, so I was showing up at you know early and saying late. You know it was a record company, you know all these things. So it's like you got to perform and I just she said you're going to get fired if you don't like, because what's happening is you're getting burnout and your attitude sucks and you're suffering, and so I had to learn to ask myself why am I working, which then served me well when I was working with medical residents and fellows. Because they're working. They have to work many hours, but to be able to say, why are you here? Right, and core values gives you that why I also took a job that basically I promised them I would start my MBA six months into the by six months into the job, until I realized I don't want to do this job. I don't need to pad my resume with something that somebody else wants me to do. I don't want to do that, I'm not interested in it, and I had to learn that I'm not my resume, and a lot of times we do that as well.

Speaker 2: 30:36

But then the other piece that I got stuck in, and a lot of people get stuck in, is having this growth mindset, because that's really supposed to be a very positive thing. But if we're just like you said, learning and learning and learning, and we don't evaluate it and we just take all this information in and do nothing with it, then we don't have anything. We're only collecting knowledge, kind of like what's that robot? That was his thing. It was like input, input. He just wanted to collect data. All the time. It's like you got to do something with it. You know, do yourself a favor and do something with it.

Speaker 1: 31:21

You are not in the application and the only way you get growth is in the real life, in real time that you're going to have to face the discomfort and see and play around with things. But just gathering knowledge makes you feel like you're getting somewhere, yet it's not. It is still a separation from the reality of of changing from the inside out. So I'm like where's the application? And that's why I do these med out. So I'm like where's the application? And that's why I do these meditations too, to show like you can take these, and it was only like a minute or two, just take those pauses just to check internally, and do it several times a day. So that, am I just being lured by something else? Or am I really checking in and doing that critical thinking?

Speaker 1: 32:04

Because critical thinking on its own, too, is a lot of energy. It's not autopilot, like you're really analyzing things and seeing your core values, seeing what society is and, you know, finding the middle ground, not this always black and white, good and bad. It's like, okay, what is the whole context of it, not just one side or the other side? I want to bring you into a reflective question. Okay, I want to ask you to bring your awareness right now and go back to your 18 year old self, and you have three words to tell your 18 year old self to carry you through the journey to now. What would those words be?

Speaker 2: 32:50

Trust as in, trust yourself, patience as in. It's going to take time and hope because it will work out.

Speaker 1: 33:03

Beautiful, beautiful. I want to thank you for you know bringing your own personal information and stories and being vulnerable so that people can see how it can relate in their own life, and I'm sure a lot of listeners now want to find out. Where can I get in contact with Andrea, cause these are things that I want to start learning about or, you know, dip my toe into the water of something different, so can you let them know where they can find?

Speaker 2: 33:33

you. Sure, I am at theintentionaloptimistcom and I've created a special landing page for your listeners. With a forward slash, lift oneself and it will give you the one page download of starting this exercise. It's free. If you don't like my emails after that they aren't that many, I'm not super consistent then you can just unsubscribe, but it will give you the opportunity to get started. And if you want to do some more work, that's fine. There's ways to do that in there. I also will reply to anybody through instant messaging on either LinkedIn or Instagram and that's you know. The DMs on there are fine and at the intentional optimist. But I also have a podcast myself called stand tall and own it, where I kind of share some of this. It's almost three years worth of female leadership stories and then some of the stuff that I've learned from all of the work that I've done with these ladies, and it's really exciting. So please reach out to me. I would love to hear from you. My podcast is also on YouTube, so it's easy to find Stand tall and own it.

Speaker 1: 34:36

For the listeners. Don't worry, I have you. All this stuff will be in the show notes and it will be clickable so that you don't have to be scrambling and repeating and rewinding. It will all be there so that it's easy access, because Andrea has a wealth of knowledge and experience to help you pivot in your world. So thank you again for being a guest and sharing such wonderful tools and also being such a light in this world by. You know your core values and you know authenticity from you sharing that story. It really shows how you are really ensuring that that pillar of authenticity is being secure and is valued. So thank you, andrea.

Speaker 2: 35:21

Thank you, it's been my pleasure. This was a lovely conversation.

Speaker 1: 35:24

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