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Stem Cells: Transforming Alzheimer's Care - episode 117
Darlene's story takes a fascinating turn as she recounts her experiences with various treatments for Alzheimer's, including the innovative stem cell activation patches and the Dr. Bredesen protocol. Discover the transformative power of these therapies not just on her husband's condition but on overall health and well-being. From brain function improvement to alleviating autoimmune symptoms, these non-invasive treatments offer hope and tangible benefits. Through personal anecdotes and scientific studies, Darlene provides compelling evidence of the efficacy of these therapies, shedding light on an often-overlooked avenue for healing.
Community plays a pivotal role in Darlene's journey. She speaks warmly about the support and friendship she's found among stem cell technology consultants, highlighting the power of shared vulnerabilities and open conversations. Together, we explore the profound connections formed through honesty and the collective strength in facing grief and loss. We also touch on the importance of intimacy, lessons from narcissistic relationships, and the wisdom gained from diverse life experiences. This episode is a rich tapestry of insights aimed at breaking mental health stigmas and inspiring collective healing.
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Good morning Nat.
Speaker 2:Nat. Good morning, darlene. How are you Well? How are you doing? I'm well, I'm well. I'm hoping I'm up in Canada and our spring isn't springing so much. So I'm hoping this weekend or something will come Like. Even if it was warm and rain, it's okay. Yet it's been rain and cold. I'm like, oh my God.
Speaker 1:Come for a visit to Arizona, to come visit me. You can come get some sunshine and some flowers anytime you're ready.
Speaker 2:Oh, please, please, I need it. I need that vitamin D. Yeah, welcome to the Lift One Self podcast, where we break mental health stigmas through conversations. I'm your host, nat Nat, and we dive into topics about trauma and how it impacts the nervous system. Yet we don't just leave you there. We share insights and tools of self-care, meditation and growth that help you be curious about your own biology. Your presence matters. Please like and subscribe to our podcast. Help our community grow. Let's get into this. Oh, and please remember to be kind to yourself. Welcome to the Lift One Self podcast, darlene. I am so thankful you're here with me and I know it's going to be a wonderful conversation.
Speaker 1:Oh, thank you, NetNet. It's just a joy to be here with you.
Speaker 2:I'm honored to be on your podcast will you join me in a meditation so we can ground ourselves in our breath?
Speaker 2:I would love that and for the listeners, as you always hear me, do my spiel. If you're driving or you're doing anything with your visual, please don't close your eyes. I want you to be safe and everybody around you to be safe. Yet the other prompts you're able to do so, darlene. I'll ask you to get comfortable in your seating. Prompts you're able to do so, darlene. I'll ask you to get comfortable in your seating and you're going to gently close your eyes and you're going to begin breathing in and out through your nose and you're going to bring your awareness to watching your breath go in and out through your nose. You're not going to try and control your breath. You're just going to keep your awareness on watching your breath go in and out, starting to observe the rhythm of it. There may be some sensations or feelings coming up in the body. Let them come up. You're safe to feel. You're safe to let go.
Speaker 2:Surrender the need to control, release the need to resist and just be. Be with your breath, drop into your body, stay with your breath. There may be thoughts or memories that popped up. It's fine, don't push it away. Just bring your awareness back to your breath. This is a space of surrender and acceptance. There's nothing you need to push away, nor is there anything that you need to fix. Just be, be with your breath and drop deeper into your body. Continue staying with your breath.
Speaker 2:Darlene, I'm going to ask you in your mind to create an intention you want to bring forth in this conversation, for the listeners and for ourselves. And when you've created that intention, I'm going to ask you to release it in your mind, allowing it to drop down into your nervous system, down your neck, past your throat, down into your chest, filling your heart and lungs, going further down into your stomach, down into your life force, and, while still staying with your breath, allowing that intention to surround you in your energy force, continue staying with your breath and dropping deeper into your body. Continue staying with your breath now, at your own time and at your own pace. You're going to gently open your eyes while still staying with your breath. How's your heart doing?
Speaker 1:My heart is truly complex. It's full of joy and gratitude and love and grief. Really it's open and it's a bit tender.
Speaker 2:I love that. I love that you're allowing yourself to feel all the different complexity and feel that it's not just one emotion. There's many different emotions that are dancing all at the same time and can be very confusing at times. Can you let the listeners know who Darlene is?
Speaker 1:listeners know who Darlene is. Sure, darlene is so many things too right, just like the heart. So right now I'm a care provider, first and foremost to my husband of 67. He's 67. He's got early Alzheimer's. I'm a mom of two daughters and sort of an adopted mom to my husband's two boys. I'm a daughter, sister, friend, teammate leader, co-author of a book, 20-year Navy veteran, leader in the technology space and a stem cell technology consultant. That's a lot. It's very colorful.
Speaker 2:I love it. It feels like a lot. It's a lived. It's a lived life I used to. In my previous life I worked with national defense so I was uh, I understand a little bit of military culture and environments, and navy is very interesting, to say the least. It can be pretty brutal with some of their mates and stuff like that, with the high expectations of getting things done where it serves good in some aspects, yet it can be very destructive in other aspects. Now I want to tap into the part where you are caregiving for your husband right now and I don't know if you have given yourself language for this and some listeners it may give them language that you are going through grief while somebody is still alive.
Speaker 1:I am because the husband that I was, you know, we've been together 20 years and married 17. But my husband that I married is not with me anymore. Right, he is. He declined very quickly when he got his early Alzheimer's diagnosis. What normally would take 13 years of time, he declined in two. And so he's age five cognitively and he, you know he has.
Speaker 1:So I've transitioned from being a wife to a mom to my husband and that I am still in the middle of grieving that. But I almost don't have time. Like I literally had a doctor say to me you need to make time to grieve, to give yourself the space. Because I was either working or taking care of Jim, or or or trying to do, you know, or, or working out or doing the, you know the things and I cause I and I said, well, you know, I'm exercising every day, I'm meditating every day, I'm eating healthy, I'm drinking water with electrolytes. Like I, we took out all of the bad foods and things forever ago. What more do you want me to do? And they were like well, how much time do you have not taking care of Jim and I? That was not a lot, that was a couple hours, maybe a week. And are you in therapy? Are you in an Alzheimer's support group? No, no.
Speaker 1:So they they said you need to do that because you can't grieve if you don't have the time and space as you talked about so frequently to give yourself. So so I have done that. I know Jim is in a program where he goes at 10 and he comes back at four and that has given me a whole new world of space. I am, I am, I am seeing um a therapist, I am in an Alzheimer's support group. So I'm trying to do those things that um gives myself, that gives me the, that opportunity to think and feel and honor wherever that is at that point in time.
Speaker 1:And it is a rollercoaster ride. You know. There are days that it's it's, it's very joyful and I'm fortunate that he is. He's the sweetest man on the planet, he's, he's an angel, which is what makes it really hard to watch of all the people. Like I have two ex-husbands, I would you know that from karma perspective, this should be happening to them right, that I have a lot of trauma from the marriages there. So this came out of the blue. We find that we have had the most beautiful marriage of anyone I know honestly he is I don't know, a marriage that was better. He has always been just darling, and so I am going through that loss, and you're right, it's in the middle of him being alive in front of me. It's just not the same person, which changes everything from his flirting. You know he's still flirting with me, but it feels inappropriate now, right, there's just all of these things that are complex.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what I can sense and feel darling is the thing that has been missing in the language is you're not feeling your emotions.
Speaker 1:I think I'm your emotions, I think I'm trying to give myself the space to do that, but I'm a very happy person in general by nature and I do a lot, as you heard. I do a lot of things to take care of myself, because I learned that the first couple of rounds, right, my first couple of marriages, were emotionally and physically abusive and I got autoimmune disorder for autoimmune disorders as a result of them and PTSD, and I had to learn stress management techniques and a lot of things to to just survive it. Um, and so I understand taking care of my health and I understand I'm in the middle of chronic stress and I understand I need to do something every day to just be okay. Um, and I, I, there are days when I I don't feel like I feel enough of what's going on. I haven't had the big cry, the one where I bawl and I'm like, oh my gosh, how could this happen? I haven't had that yet and I'm, you know it. It might happen today on your podcast if we're not careful here, because I know you evoke tears in everyone. But I will say that.
Speaker 1:But I am, I'm working to honor wherever I am and however I am, and and and my my therapist has said I want you to notice. You know you get to right here and then are you stuffing it or can you let it out. You know she just she wants just to just be able to first start by identifying that sort of thing. So you're absolutely right. Able to first start by identifying that sort of thing. So you're absolutely right. If you move too quickly through life, you don't take the time to really feel enough. So I am trying to slow things down in that regard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it tried to come out just when you spoke about your husband being an angel and then feeling the vulnerability of seeing your experience, feeling your experience more looking at him rather than looking at yourself. And that's why you shut it right down, right away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did. Well, I understand that. A couple of times that I have really cried. I was looking at memory care facilities which are horrific to go look at as a 59-year-old looking for a 67-year-old, right, because everyone in there looks like they're 100. I know they're probably in their 80s, but it's just a really hard place to consider putting your husband in when they would ask twice. I've had them say, well, tell me about your husband. That was that was really it, right, um, because he, he is so amazing. Um, so you're right that that will. Uh, that's the space that kind of gets me. Um, I'm grateful. I'm grateful that he is so fabulous.
Speaker 1:I think this in some ways might be easier if he wasn't so sweet and so kind, if I could say oh, this is done, we're putting you in a place like you know. This is just I'm not putting up with that kind of crap Like if it was in any way ugly, but he's just a very sweet, wanting to do and help any way he can. He just can't even open a banana. He literally opened it from the middle out. Who does that Can't get a glass of ice water without specific instructions. So that's where we are.
Speaker 2:And you're getting to learn life through a new experience. So it's hitting a lot of parts where you think life has to be a certain way and he's engaging you to do it differently very differently every day, very differently, and it's exhausting it is.
Speaker 1:It is exhausting because it's sort of I mean mean, I remember parenting toddlers. It's very much like that. Right, we're going to make you breakfast. Make sure you get dressed properly, make sure you shower, make sure you brush your teeth with toothpaste, not shaving cream. Like you know, these are things you have to worry about, right? You know, make a morning protein smoothie, pack your lunch, get you off to school or work or whatever we want to call it, and it's really very much like that.
Speaker 2:What do you do for play with him?
Speaker 1:So we go for walks and we work out together. You know, we watch movies. We don't travel anymore. It's not good for him, it's very disorienting and, uh, not helpful. Um, we do puzzles and listen to music and we're very affectionate so we dance in the kitchen. I, we just do silly things sometimes because you know you can be silly and it's important to be silly. And one day, you know, typically I would say I would never, I don't want to cry around my husband. But there was a day when I was just feeling it pretty powerfully and I just said I just need a little cry and I just hugged him and cried. I don't think he really understood, I don't think he, you know, and then I kind of was able to move on, but I was particularly feeling a loss that day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you know, unfortunately, we get this indoctrination that we're not allowed to cry in our relationships, as if it's meaning something of a negative thing where it's like well, this is our humanness.
Speaker 1:It is, it is. I just I don't ever want him to think I'm crying about him Like I don't want him to. I don't know whether he can even process it, that maturity anyway, and you know, when you're a child you think the whole world is about you, and so I don't want him to think it is about him.
Speaker 2:And, if you know, that's lacking sometimes in our communication, even with young ones, because we got separated from our instincts, that we went into a room and we could see something was wrong, yet the adults would say no, no, there's nothing wrong. So you started not listening to your intuition. You were reading the room correctly, that there were emotions going on, yet the adults didn't think you had the capacity to navigate in that. And then it's like, well, how am I supposed to learn to engage with my emotions if there's only certain emotions that can be expressed and other emotions are considered? And it's like taboo, I should say. And it's like, okay, well, how do we model these things? And they're uncomfortable because it goes against a narrative that we could have been indoctrinated generation after generation, especially for women.
Speaker 2:As soon as women show some tears and you were in the military show tears, oh my gosh, that's annihilation. You got to be powerhouse. If you show any kind of tears and you're emotional, you're not logical, yada, yada, where it's like, actually, when women express their tears, they actually can come to some solution bases and not have to be that powerhouse of destroying, get this done and everything else. And it's like, how do we relate to ourselves in these shadow parts? Because when the tears come up, it's a shadow part that we've pushed down for so long and, like your therapist said, like when it's coming up here, are you pushing it right back down or can you let it visit? Can you, you know, let it sit around for a bit, and that that's that shadow work.
Speaker 2:So when people are like, oh, the shadow work, they think it's all negative and it's like, well, actually it's your sensitive parts and it's exactly like the wizard of Oz.
Speaker 2:There's this big voice that you're intimidated by and you're like, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2:Yet if you allow curiosity, you can see behind the big, loud voices, this little human that wants to be able to express but it doesn't have the ability because we've been so conditioned to shut down certain types of emotions. And I'm thankful that you're giving a different story, because not many people can say like, oh, the Alzheimer's is a joyful thing, like it's frustrating in certain parts, but Alzheimer, it can bring out the defense and they're very afraid, feeling unsafe, and then become combative and difficult to be in this adult body with the curiosity and mind of a young one, and then that becomes very conflicting and everything else. So you're shining a different light to the story and I'm very thankful for that, because not many people have the mindset to be engaged with this in the way that you are being, engaged, in the way you're telling the story. Can you let us know about this stem cell and what that looks like and what it's about, because I'm sure some people are like oh, stem cell, what's that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it starts back right when the diagnosis occurred. I did a ton of research. I'm kind of the person that I'm going to dig in and I have been seeing functional medicine doctors and integrative health physicians for 20 years really maybe more actually because of the autoimmune right. There's just nothing. There's nothing that you can do chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, all of those things that I don't even know. I don't even know that Western medicine knows what the heck they are. I think they're just labels and I'm not going to claim them, even though I was once upon a time diagnosed with even POTS, actually postural orthostatic tachycardia, so lots of things. So I've been looking at alternate therapies for quite some time and doing a lot of research myself, and there really wasn't anything.
Speaker 1:For my husband, first of all, he has the APOE4 for gene types, so he has Alzheimer's from both parents. He's also got early Alzheimer's, which is why it's so aggressive and the decline occurred so quickly. And everything was pointing to the power of stem cells, and so, at great cost, we went out of country to get IV stem cells four different times in a year, every quarter at $10,000 in IV. He did it and I did it. I was hoping to just stop passing out because of the POTS. That was the biggest thing for me and really it did not help and it was sort of heartbreaking that it didn't help. We did microbiome testing. We did gene mapping. We have an infrared sauna. We did hyperbaric chamber several times a week for a month. Hydrogen water ozone therapy. We followed the Dr Bredesen protocol, which I really recommend anybody that has Alzheimer's follow the Dr Bredesen protocol. Daily strength training and aerobic training and sleep protocol that included things like getting your eyes on the morning sun, stop eating three hours before bed, red lights in the bedroom or the bathroom so we're not shining lights on ourselves as we get ready for bed. Really cool, all the things you could possibly do. And still the decline.
Speaker 1:At the point of time when I was introduced to this new technology, he was really no longer himself. He was kind of a zombie. He slept the day away. Three and a half hours of sleeping, would fall asleep at seven as well, was disengaged from conversation, not even trying. He's a very funny person. He loves making people laugh and that is who he is. That's his personality, and so he wasn't even trying to make people laugh anymore. He would ask me the same question seven times in just a couple minutes and it was really rough. I had really lost him.
Speaker 1:So when I had a friend say there is a technology that helps you activate your own stem cells, I was like, and I was like I'm in, I'm in. I didn't have to know there were 90 clinical studies. I didn't have to know there were over 300 Olympic athletes, including Michael Phelps or that Tom Brady and the Kansas City Chiefs were. I didn't need to know any of these things to just dive in because I was like it only needs to work for one person, for me, right, it's great that it works for a lot of them, it's great that it's their double-blind placebo control studies, but I just needed to work for one person.
Speaker 1:So we began. There's this tiny little quarter-sized patch. It works. You know, we talked about needing vitamin D, like getting out in the sun and having your sun sends a signal through your skin. Having your sun sends a signal through your skin. Hey, make vitamin D. So it works just like that.
Speaker 1:Only you have light inside of you. So if I looked at you with night vision goggles on, you have light inside of you and this little thing acts a little bit like a mirror reflecting your own light back into you at a very specific wavelength that elevates a copper peptide called GHKCU, which is actually an amazing peptide that's been studied for 50 years and there's just beautiful studies on the benefits that we can talk about later. But one of the biggest benefits is it increases stem cells. It increases and activates your stem cells, which I didn't know. When you're 30, half of your stem cells are dormant. When you're 60, they're almost all dormant. So we're aging faster and we're healing slower. And that's you know. I didn't know. I learned enough in my studies that they are the. You know they're the thing that made us right. The pluripotent stem cells can become anything from bone to muscle to cartilage to fat to brain to cartilage to fat to brain, to lungs, to liver to kidney anything that your body needs.
Speaker 1:So when I we started patching a year ago, in the very first day, in the very first week, my husband stopped napping. He did not. He did not take a three and a half hour nap. He started talking like a damn broke and he had two years worth of stuff to say. He was with it in a way that you know he wasn't asking me the same questions over and over again. He was responding. He was funny Again, he was back to his personality. He was funny and flirty and we have Zoom calls with my brother-in-law and sister-in-law every other weekend Back then. Now it's every week and they were just like whoa, what I mean? Jim used to just be silent and all of a sudden now he's like coming in with zingers and they're like what is going on? And I said we have started activating his stem cells and they are just, I mean, it was just crazy.
Speaker 1:And over time other things got better. So he, he got back the ability to whistle and to drum and he also regained his sense of smell, which he had lost 15 years ago. Um, you know, his blood pressure dropped 37 points. Uh, his bald spot began closing in and hair grew in. Uh, he has. Um, just you know, he recorded his best sleep ever. Uh, where we had been struggling to get the deep sleep and, and so he, he just really improved and he has those things have stayed in the last year. He's still awake and alert and articulate, and he doesn't get the right word. He has he's. I'm not saying he's, I'm not saying he's cured at all, I'm saying that things woke up for him and I. I got my husband back his personality and he's no longer that zombie and he is active and he's able to go to a day program where I don't know that he could have done that before, cause I think he would have slept through it, quite honestly. So really amazing things for him and then really amazing things for me. You know, I was depressed. I wanted to cry every single day.
Speaker 1:A year ago. I was this close to tears all the time and just having a hard time even having the patience to be a care provider. I had a broken foot, I had a sprained ankle and I needed surgery and I had five months of pain with that. And when that happened it really took me down because all my coping mechanisms, my pickleball three times a week, my walks around the neighborhood, my exercising the way I did, all of those, the social outlets it was sort of like sitting in a chair and so to be able to put on patches that took me out of pain immediately, that have no drugs in them, no contraindications, it's just my body moving energy. It was really I actually didn't even believe it, quite honestly the day I put these patches on and my pain went away. I was so skeptical. I was okay, this must be the day you day. Five months in, I'm finally at the day where I lose pain. But you wear the patches 12 hours on and then you take them off after 12 hours, leave them off for 12 hours and then you put them on again 12 hours. You don't want your body to get used to the signal where it stops responding. When I took it off, 15 minutes later my ankle was back to throbbing again.
Speaker 1:I had all this energy in the very first week I was. I've never been one to like cooking. I mean, I just really didn't. But I we were. You know we had stopped sugar and white flour and you know any kind of oil, unless olive oil or avocado oil or, you know, coconut oil. We were really organic, clean eating. So it it almost you have to cook like you can't buy that stuff, right? So I, but I dread I didn't like it. And this first week of patching, I'm in the kitchen, I'm cooking up a storm. I am cooking up more than I had cooked in a year and I'm like what is going on? Like why did I hate cooking, you know? And I think it was just that I didn't have. I didn't have the energy to cook, um, so I had.
Speaker 1:I had other things. I had rosacea that doctors for years had not been able to really resolve for me. My skin was always on fire. Even the most expensive creams from Nordstrom's would just like, feel like fire on my skin. Um, all of all of these things just started to clear up for me. I stopped passing out. I no longer have to take this prescribed prescription medicine called flugacortisol, which was intended to increase my blood pressure so that I didn't pass out from my POTS. I don't have to take that anymore, and not only do I not have to take it. I can do things that I couldn't do before. I can do squats. I used to do one squat and it would be like blackout. I'm out, right, I can do these things now and I can exercise hard and um the uh.
Speaker 1:The other thing that happened for me is that I stopped stress eating. So there's a calmness that you know it really has this effect of. I talked about relieving my depression. That happened in like two or three weeks. It just elevated my mood, calmed my nervous system. It gave me endless more patience. I mean like like night and day I, I it's hard to even describe it. And so what that also meant was that I was no longer stress eating. I was no longer, you know, standing in front of the refrigerator, not really hungry but just wanting comfort, right and or the pantry.
Speaker 1:And so I stopped stress eating, I balanced my hormones and so I I lost 20 pounds in time and, not trying really, my skin became really soft. I stopped having regular headaches. I used to never go anywhere without my migraine medicine, because you never know when a headache was going to come on. I would have it in the car, I would have it in my purse, I would have it in everything, always. And it was not long ago. Somebody else was here and had a headache and I said, oh, I have really good medicine somewhere. I had no idea where it was, like I don't even, like I haven't laid eyes on it in a year.
Speaker 1:So all of these amazing things, and and also fewer body aches and ability to work out hard, part of my fibromyalgia was that I couldn't work out too hard without having just tremendous body aches, like needing three days to recover, and I have to really take it easy and to be gentle, and now I can work out really, really hard and so I'm gaining muscle and I'm getting healthier and I don't think I have autoimmune disorders anymore. I really don't think I have any of that. I think I had cellular dysfunction and that the stem cells have fixed those things. So one of the best things that this can do for you is, in just six weeks of wearing the stem cell activation patch, your cardiovascular system becomes eight weeks younger and, and I think that that just revamped my cardiovascular system so that I'm getting enough blood to the brain. So it's, it's really, and I and I got to watch that happen for me, but I also got to watch.
Speaker 1:There's actually studies, like one that has some EEGs, and I love this stuff because it's very for the people that have the scientific mind and are a little skeptical, like me and really kind of thought of energy medicine as a little woo-woo, or certainly light therapy, although light therapy has really been around 5,000 years. I don't know why. I would think that people know that you know red, blue light therapy or infrared saunas or all of these things. They know that, but still it was. Even as alternative as I am, this was a little out there for me. But when you can look at an EEG and you see the red and the inflammation and the hypercoherence not good communication between two hemispheres of the brain. And then, three weeks after wearing the patch, you find that it is completely changed in the mapping and the colors of different people not only report that they're feeling less lowered anxiety and more improved focus and improved memory, but then you see it and then six weeks later, it's a whole new map and the study actually proved that there was cell and nerve regeneration, that there was elevation of this copper peptide, that there was decreased brain inflammation and improved coherence and improved memory and cognition and improved capacity processing.
Speaker 1:And I got to watch that happen in my husband in a week, like it is, it was so. It was both so exciting and frustrating. Because now, now, where had this been? Like, if we would have known about this three years ago, four years ago, we would not be where we are today. My husband would not be five, and I know that I really do.
Speaker 1:I don't know that, that we have the time, I don't know what is possible going forward, um, but I know that getting and starting this earlier would have been so much better, and so I was a little bit mad about it and I, you know, I started talking to my family, right, my mom, my dad, you need to improve your bone density and your muscle mass and stability because you're both fall hazards are 83 and they're 88. And honestly, like I'm dealing with, my husband's forecasted lifespan is three years at the outset, but possibly a year and a half If he progresses at the rate and the doctor at the Barrow's Neurological Center said expect him to progress at the same rate he has declined to date. So I'm like mom and dad, you're 83 and 88. I can't deal with all of you at once. So you need to take care of yourself, we need to activate your stem cells and we need to make sure you're healthy, cause I can only do one of these at a time right now and I know that that's that's.
Speaker 2:That sounds really selfish but I just need everybody to be okay, you know.
Speaker 1:So we started with them and my sister. My sister has had six years of microscopic colitis and did steroids and you know she did IV stem cells and she did antibiotics and everything. Nothing worked and in just three weeks of an anti-inflammation patch and the stem cell activation patch, her microscopic colitis went away. Her plantar fasciitis went away. That colitis went away, her plantar fasciitis went away.
Speaker 1:So as I began to talk to people about this and more you know my cousin with fibromyalgia, my aunt with depression, my, you know all of these things people began to experience these amazing results. I was driven to help others because it, as I mentioned to you, it's been the silver lining of this journey for me the ability to help others optimize their mental health and their physical health without drugs, without anything that has any. There's no contraindications, that people don't need a prescription for, that can get mailed to their doorstep. It is life-changing and transformational and I get texts every day that lift my heart and spirit and soul because they are feeling better, they're not in pain, they have more energy, they are getting better sleep, they're seeing their A1C drop, they don't need to be on their cholesterol medicine, they don't need to be on their blood pressure medicine, they don't need to be on their cholesterol medicine, they don't need to be on their blood pressure medicine, they don't need to be on their thyroid medicine. I mean, it is really just so remarkable that you kind of think why isn't this on the front page of every newspaper and why isn't this being touted in the television? And where? How is this so hidden? So it's frustrating that it's so hidden and unfortunately, you know. So it's frustrating that it's so hidden and unfortunately, you know. I think big pharma and television and and the government are all like bundled together. And when you get to the root cause, when you allow your body's innate wisdom to do the healing by actually activating the things that kills your body, you know you don't need these medicines that are keeping big pharma in business. So it's really, it's really been a phenomenal journey and I would also just say this that the as much healing as the patches have done for my body, the community of people that do this, that are stem cell technology consultants they're so giving and generous and beautiful, they care so much about other people that that community of people wanting to do something bigger than themselves and for other people, that has been as good for my heart and soul, as anything has.
Speaker 1:I have this huge group of friends guys, girls, a lot of women. I've been surrounded by men in my workforce my whole life 20 years in the Navy, all men, particularly Technology. I mean. When I left the Navy I'm like I'm going to go into a field with more women. No, I ended up in technology and it's mostly men, and so it's been really so wonderful to be in a community of both more fully, equally, and have that support and know I could pick up the phone with any one of them and that they're dear friends now. And even just talking on the podcast you know in preparation we talked about, I've listened to at least 11 of your podcasts. That has been good for my soul, like there are so many powerful podcasts out there and making these connections with people that I just become friends with because we open up our heart and soul to each other, right and and we share very vulnerable things and and so it's just been a real amazing journey of community as well. That's a very long answer.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's exactly what's needed, which you explained, and what I provide also is that regulation of the nervous system. That's what that's doing. It's the peptide is re regulation of the nervous system. That's what that's doing. It's the peptide is rewiring the nervous system so the four F's aren't being activated. The fight, flight, freeze or fawn and pumping your whole body with a bunch of cortisol and adrenaline. And now it's okay, let's create a homeostasis to the best of its ability as it keeps adapting. And you know, I understand, that you want your husband the way he used to be. I understand that. I get that. If you can allow yourself, what is your actually? Let me ask you this what is your relationship with death?
Speaker 1:Well, I, you know, I don't know that, I know I don't know that, I know I do think I'm spiritual. So I'm not afraid of death. I'm not afraid of death, even for him. I'm afraid of suffering for him, but I'm not afraid of death for him. I'm not even afraid of loneliness for me. I'm not afraid of that process. I, just when I've gone into facilities and I've looked at what the last stage of this journey looks like and their infant literally know, literally, 16 weeks of, you know, unable to hold up their head, unable to move their body, um, you know, that is just, that is just hard to see. I just hope that he doesn't have to go through all the stages, um, because I feel like that's a's very painful, um, but I don't know that I can answer your question. I, I have had, I've had friends past, but not really dear, close friends. So this will be, you know, my, my introduction yeah, and that's.
Speaker 2:You know, it can be very challenging. People want to say they're not afraid of death rather than say yeah, I'm scared. I'm scared of the unknown, I'm scared of what that experience, I'm scared of the pain it's going to cause. Because grief, you know, death causes pain. But we are a society that you know what we're anti. No, no, don't talk about pain or anything when it's like, okay, let me walk through this, not try to act like, oh, I'm not afraid, like no, there's fear in there, because our nervous system has one function don't die. So the nervous system gets activated all the time. So being able to walk through that and see, oh, wait a minute I've been kind of given the illusion that death is final. Yeah, you said in your language, you're spiritual and you're seeing with the stem cells energy doesn't die, it transforms. So we haven't thought about the other side of love.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely. Um, it's not like it's. I don't feel like death is. You know the spirit I think will continue, even just his soul. All of that is protected. It's really what you're talking about. More than not, is the loss of that person in front of you every day the way they were before.
Speaker 1:Which I'm already in the middle of right, but but, um, I really, just again, don't want him to experience pain. Um, there was a while that he was going through, you know, a couple of weeks of every day just wanting to end his life, just not wanting to be on the planet, not wanting to be a burden, aware enough that he did not want this, and I would spend hours talking him in off that ledge and that ripped my guts out. That's maybe the hardest thing I've gone through is that daily for two weeks straight, and then we added some psilocybin mushrooms and we did some things to try to elevate mood and succeeded, so that he's now a happy, he's in a happier place and so I can be in a happier place. But I agree with you, there is going to be pain. I embrace it. I know I have to go through it. If I don't go through it now, it's just really going to pop out later Like it's just, you know I do get that, like it's not something you can skip in this process and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1:I will honor that, that's. You know you have to have pain. If you have love and you lose a loved one, you you have to. Well, I'm working hard on them right now, um, and living in the present, uh, and just today, and this moment, and and appreciating um, who he is in this moment, how he is in this moment, I'm grateful. Especially, I'm in a few support groups online that you know, not all people with Alzheimer's are as sweet and trying to be helpful and loving, and you know we're very affectionate people and trying to be helpful and loving, and you know we're very affectionate people. I think love, I think I think touch maybe his love language. So you know, there's just constant holding of hands and all of that and and, and I can be grateful for that I hope you're grateful for yourself also, darling thank you.
Speaker 1:Um, I I I'll have to think about that. I am, am I grateful for myself? I am proud of myself going through this. I feel like I'm a very good person, grateful for all the people around me, I think, and the things that I am able to, the support that I get. I do give support back too.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I will work on that that's somewhere you just got to see that it's been all external where it's like wait, you're, you're living this experience and if I can keep occupied with the other people, I I'm not feeling my vulnerability, the depths of really feeling that intimacy, being really intimate with yourself, cause people think intimacy is just sexual and it's like that's just the top layer, int layer.
Speaker 1:Intimacy is much more profound than that, um, didn't you call it once to me, see, I think. You called it that one time in a podcast into me, see I think?
Speaker 2:I heard you say yeah.
Speaker 1:I like that.
Speaker 2:I thought that was really clever and I was like, wow, that's pretty powerful it is, um, because a lot of times we're not seeing ourselves, yeah, we're not allowing ourselves to feel the emotions and see the two like see your husband but also see yourself in it. We've been taught and kind of trained serve others. You're nobody. Where it's like what do you mean? I'm nobody, and I understand that because you don't, like you know for the ego, the defense mechanisms not to get super inflated. Yet once you can understand the defense mechanisms, then you're like no, I got to pay attention to in here to make sure that I don't project out there.
Speaker 1:Yeah right.
Speaker 1:Right, and I will say I'm. One of the things I am so grateful for, you know, is that I had such a great upbringing and such great parents that gave me insight into what a marriage was supposed to look like. And when I did not have that because narcissists are slippery suckers, right, they are so good at masking their true selves Initially I knew this is not what it's supposed to look like, this is not what I'm supposed to be experiencing and this is not healthy and okay. But I'm and I guess I ought to be grateful for the. You know, I don't know with the first one if I would have gotten out without the physical abuse, because I don't know that I recognize the emotional abuse while I was in it. Easy to see it afterwards, but in it I was just sort of fighting, fighting for my voice and, and you know so, so many things. So in in some ways, I, I, I have.
Speaker 1:One of the greatest gifts that my current husband, jim, has given to me is the gift he gave to our daughters, who were from my second husband, who was a narcissist and obsessive, compulsive personality disorder too, and that is the gift of showing what a loving marriage looks like, what it looks like to honor your wife and to be respectful and to have this sort of very beautiful loving relationship and and, um, you know, I've had, I've had a daughter say I would never have gotten married. I don't think if I hadn't seen your marriage with Jim and what that looks like, and and that there are good men in the world like and and that there are good men in the world.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, but that was also a double-edged sword, because my dad was such a great man with all this great character and integrity and treated my mom beautifully, with such respect and, you know, modeled it all, that when I was first dating I didn't ever occur to me that all men weren't like that. Like I just had no idea that there were liars and schemers and narcissists, like I just didn't know at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the thing I think sometimes, where you know, that's where I say everybody wants to create this pristine kind of life and make it look so unicorns and rainbows and everything's peaceful, and you know we're Mary Poppins and we're jumping on beds and just lovely, where it's like, yeah, but the world, the real world, isn't like that, like there's lions and tigers and bears and things that go on, and not everybody had an environment like you did.
Speaker 2:So then you understand well, they're going to treat people a certain way, because once you get more profound of seeing like the spectrum of it, you're like okay, it's teaching everyone that unfortunately, we have this thing that we think everybody thinks like us or feels like us or experiences life like us, and then we have to see like no, not everybody sees the world like we do or have the same experiences, and then that shapes our nervous systems in different ways. So I know the listeners are like okay enough, you talked about this stem cell research and these peptides and all of these things that did great benefits. Are you able to let the listeners know where they can find you, darlene, and where they can find the stem cell and also your book?
Speaker 1:Oh, also my book.
Speaker 1:So I would never, ever have written a chapter of a book, except I had a podcaster who said, darlene, please, I don't even want to publish our podcast, I want you to write this, I want you to be an author in my book and would you do that? And I said, okay. You know a lot of people will say that's very cathartic. It was not. It was not. It was very. It was not fun to kind of go all the way back and speak to all of that. It's not even fun to read it actually for me, but it has the silver lining. So the book is called Become Empowered. Echoes of Grace and Strength Real Life Stories of Women's Transformation and Triumph. It was published just this month and it became a bestseller already. So I'm really, I'm really pleased about that. People can reach me on my website, which is I am reverse agingcom, so that's I A, m, r, e, v E R S, e, a G I N Gcom. And on that website they can see the patent. They can see 90 clinical studies. They can see little videos on how the patch works. They can buy the patent. They can see 90 clinical studies. They can see little videos on how the patch works. They can buy the patches. They can reach out to me. I would actually prefer they reach out to me because I would.
Speaker 1:I would tell people you really, if you have any issues, you really need two different patches the stem cell activation patch and the anti-inflammation patch. Not necessarily forever do you need the anti-inflammation patch. Not necessarily forever Do you need the anti-inflammation, but you know, issues equate to inflammation. So there's just so much. There's before and after pictures, there's there's doctors talking. There's more information than you can possibly get through and it can be a little overwhelming and that's why I would rather someone just reach out and let's let me just simplify it for you and guide you through the process.
Speaker 1:And really, the only thing they need to do is drink water. Drink water because you're going to detox. Um, it's going to elevate your glutathione, uh, which is your body's master antioxidants and detoxifier. So that's really the only requirement. And and it's so affordable we're talking where I spent $10,000 in an IV for one of us the stem cell activation patches $99 for a month supply. It's so affordable and and I love that because it it ought be something there isn't anyone that wouldn't benefit.
Speaker 1:The only people that have to be very careful are people who have had an organ transplant, because their immune systems are being suppressed, typically with medicines, and this is going to elevate your immune system. So you just need to hold hands with a doctor and make sure that it's not elevating the immune system too much. And maybe you don't even want the stem cell activation patch, maybe you just want the anti-inflammation patch or something like that. So I've worked with people like that too. So, yeah, that's the place that they can reach me is that I am reverseagingcom website that they can reach me is that I am reverseagingcom website.
Speaker 2:These guys have stories of people with cancer.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, amazing. I actually have a friend, end stage agent orange veteran leukemia. Literally had sold his cows. He was a farmer at that point in his life and was in his deathbed only able to move around with a wheelchair or a walker, round-the-clock pain meds and got the patches in three days was out of bed feeling so good, out of pain and in two weeks was traveling, gave away his walker, gave away his wheelchair, has watched his white cell count improve dramatically and bought back his cows. Is now living a life with a very high quality. They were at the point in time that night where they were saying to him we're going to give you this drug, it's going to kill you, but it's going to improve your quality of life while you go through the process of dying. That's where he was and Robert is now living a very high quality of life, feeling great. So, yes, there are lung cancer stories. There are. There's probably not a thing that I don't have a testimonial on I can't think of. I mean from heart to lungs, to brain, to gut, to skin, to you name it. It's just even autism.
Speaker 1:My dear friend who introduced me to these has a daughter with a rare genetic disorder. She was really 16 years old, but academically kindergarten and very combative and very combative. Just nothing was easy. This child could not be left alone for one minute and in just I think it was 11 days. On the 11th day she saw a different child she. She did not have to give her the ADHD medicine, she was focused, she was able to. She actually like, made a little meal, cleaned it up, uh, was reading. She had never seen her read in her entire life, had this calm presence. And, um, the tutor was just like, wow, I don't know what's going on, but she's doing great. And they tested her at the 15 day mark and her, the best, the best mask where she'd ever gotten was 51. She cut a hundred and, instead of being kindergarten, at five weeks they tested her and she was now upper third grade, lower fourth grade. That's five weeks and a year and I think it was 10 months later they tested and she had the executive reasoning of a 16 year old, which is not supposed to change her executive reasoning. Apparently it doesn't change, but hers did.
Speaker 1:And the tester was like I don't understand. This wasn't even registering, you know, a year ago. So this is a child who's now talking about living on their own, very, you know, has learned how to count money, has just been able to grow so much and is able to be left alone and which, of course, completely changed their mom's experience. Right that, that mom's life has completely changed too. And we've got stories of MS Parkinson's. My dear friend with Parkinson's tremored since she was five years old violent tremors in just two weeks on the anti-inflammation patch and the stem cell activation patch stopped tremoring. So I mean, the stories are just so miraculous as to be almost unbelievable.
Speaker 1:And I know that there are people that are listening that are saying I just don't believe that. And I totally get that, like I totally understand, like I didn't either. I really didn't either. But you know, if you're the person that wants to dive into all the studies, you can see all 90 clinical studies on the website. And if you're the person who wants to listen to testimonials, there's a bunch of those. And if you're the person who wants to listen to testimonials, there's a bunch of those.
Speaker 1:And if you're the person who is just like you know what, it only needs to work for me.
Speaker 1:It really only needs to work for you and I really it's not a matter of if it's going to work for you.
Speaker 1:It's just a matter of when you're going to notice it and what you're going to feel, because you can't tell your stem cells where to go. They're going to go where they need to go. The most important place and I like to say like I want all my husband's stem cell activity to go right to his brain and the whole system that's going to improve is the Alzheimer's. But he was a naval aviator of 30 years and landed on an aircraft carrier. You know 1200 times and they may say you know, your husband spent a few days at the officer's club in the bar and we got to start with his liver. You know, I don't know where the stem cells are going to go, so but they are. They are in there making a difference and it's really. I think it's the most amazing investment anybody could ever do for themselves is to try it. There is a money back guarantee, so it's not like you're risking anything, even risking anything even.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for you know, sharing the personal story and also the triumph and where there's light and again being able to use your own biology without you know cause. I like I was asked this morning. I was on a podcast and they were like, okay, well, when you had the lesions in your brain, would you say modern medicine helped you or traditional? And I don't even know why they call meditation and all these things traditional, cause it's like been here for, like before right, exactly Um or not traditional but alternative medicine.
Speaker 2:I'm like, how is this alternative? Um? So it's like I'm like it's not one or the other, like they both were needed. So it's really having to come out of this all or nothing mentality and medication is needed for certain aspects. I just if we can come into the language, like when I ask people, I'm like you know, it's not asking how many people are on drugs, it's asking how many are not on any kind of medication that don't even need a simple Tylenol.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And the problem is that most of those things are just masking symptoms. They're never getting to the root cause, and that that's the problem. I mean at least one of the things I absolutely love and I know I've heard you say that like they never really did figure out what was going on with you. One of the things I love about these patches is that you don't really need to know. You don't. There's no, you know. Nobody has to put a label on it, nobody has to tell you exactly what happened or what went wrong. You don't have to talk about it, you know. You just. You just patch and the magic happens. And so I think of myself a little bit like a light warrior in that regard that you know I'm. I am not only hopefully sharing some hope and light, but helping people find that light within them and tap into it to to improve whatever it is. I mean we all.
Speaker 1:I have a doctor friend. I love her to death. She's like I don't really have anything wrong with me, but she had a daughter with a brain bleed, and so she started the patches just so that she could test them out before putting them on her daughter. Her daughter had had a horrible incident with a horse and it was bad. Her head was sort of knocked against a steel pipe and she had bleeding and neck injury and coma for a long time. And you know they were going to she wasn't able to see and she wasn't able to think, and she was. You know they were going to like, look, we're going to have to hold her back because she can't go to school. And she wasn't able to think, and she was. You know they were going to let her like, look, we're going to have to hold her back because she can't go to school and she can't study. And she's, she's, I think, 13 or 14 and six foot tall. So this, this was not actually optimal to have her help back either. And the mom started patching and she's like, oh, my back pain is gone and I actually I don't need my thyroid medicine anymore and I'm, you know, dropping weight and all of these things are happening.
Speaker 1:So then her daughter, it just the first night patching. Her daughter slept through the night for the first time ever. And then her daughter started to improve so dramatically they didn't have to hold her back and she's, she was able to read again and her vision improved and all of these things occurred for her so that she could kind of get now she's back to normal. And they had tried all the other things, like they had tried hyperbaric chamber, they had tried Western medicine's approach.
Speaker 1:There just really wasn't anything out there and that's why I love that this is your own body finding the answers to whatever it is that's going on in there, because we we, you know, doctors play a little bit, play God in trying to go in and figure it out, and I just don't think that they're that good. I just don't think they're that good at it. I appreciate them and if I break my arm or leg I'm going to go to the hospital, but for chronic or for the bigger issues of our autoimmune or our our health health, not sickness I think that we we have to look at other options.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's all nervous system. Yet when I would ask the people, they were like that's too complex. And then, when I had asked about nutrition, can't patent that. So here's some medication. I'm like, ah, there's stuff going on in the nervous system that we need to really recognize, and what trauma does and how it reshapes, the nervous system. And then you know, like auto-immunes, it's like your immune system is attacking itself. It's like, well, why would it do that? Like what is in there that's causing this signaling? And then you know I don't know if you've ever heard of Cambo. I've ever heard of that Cambo. Cambo no.
Speaker 2:So it's a secretion from an Amazon frog and it's peptides and amino acids. So you put it on, you burn a layer of your skin. I did it twice. It's not fun, it's not fun, it's not painful, it's just not fun. And then the peptides go into your body and like rewire, so you're purging. So you have to drink a lot of water before because you're going to be purging, either throwing up or having bowel movements. And then after that, like there's a clearing, like I felt a clearing inside my body of energy and stuff. And uh, my uh sense were like you're very calm. I'm like, yeah, yeah, like. So it makes you feel very helpless going through the process because there's a surrendering and letting these things find their way, and it's like, it's nature, like, and we forget that the human body is made up of nature.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, the good news is that you can Google in PubMed you can Google GHKCU so you can see the studies that are anti-cancer and the resetting of a program cell. Actually, it resets program cell death of cancer cells but it doesn't affect the healthy cells and it even repairs damaged DNA and resets genes against to protect against cancer. In fact it actually it resets 4,000 genes in the first 24 hours of wearing the patch. So that's that in and of itself is huge. But you can also see the tissue repair in the lung and people have been getting GHK-CU injections. There's a doctor I heard talking about it that said she was giving four injections in a day and that was not elevating their GHKCU the same magnitude of our one patch, which is so much easier than injections.
Speaker 1:Peptides are kind of a big deal right now and they're all the rage, right, and that's why, of course, they're getting taken off the market and they're very hard to get now and they're they're all the rage right, um, and that's why, of course, they're getting taken off the market and they're very hard to get now and they're harder to find, um, because they are so impactful and fabulous and and there's, there are some creams with GHK in them, I mean, but it isn't. It isn't, uh you?
Speaker 1:know, it's, it's. It's pretty safe Like it's. It's like you can ask your doctor. How do you feel about light?
Speaker 2:therapy their doctor is not going to say light therapy is a problem, they're not going to say, like they're going to go get salad, right, it's fine, yeah, you never know. Nowadays they might say, well, you know, we don't know how it might interfere with the medication and yada yada. But um, no, it's true, like it's, it's again. We've been indoctrinated to only see medicine and health in a certain way, rather than well, how do I work with my own biology and, like I said, that's the whole reason why I created this podcast is, okay, be curious about your own biology and how can you work with it and amplify it. I want to bring you into a reflective question. So you've heard my podcast, so you know what I'm going to ask. I'm going to ask you to bring your awareness right now and go back to your 18-year-old self, and you have three words to tell your 18-year-old self, to bring you to the journey of right now. What would those words be?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've actually thought a lot about this question because I have listened to enough of your podcasts to know that this was coming and it's really trust animal brain, trust my animal brain.
Speaker 1:Really, I did not know about the animal brain as a young person and so all the red flags that I saw and felt, the hairs on the back of my neck, the things I talked myself out of or let myself be lied to and convinced of along the way, you know I didn't honor them and I I wish I would have known the power of my animal brain and trusted it way more than my prefrontal cortex, because it's so much smarter than my prefrontal cortex.
Speaker 1:So I I absolutely think, I think if that would have happened, I would not have been in my first two relationships with my first two husbands, and I think that would have been very life changing for me if I would have understood. So, if there are any 18 year olds, study and learn about your animal brain, because it is so smart, and listen to it, uh, very carefully, because it knows when you don't know and whether that's just someone on an alley or you know in the store or you know whatever it might be. Trust your instincts, because they're so, that intuition and your instincts are so powerful, and we just don't give it enough credit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the intuition, the instincts. Are you willing to share what your intention was in the meditation?
Speaker 1:Sure, I really hoped to touch and help someone anyone, people, you and others with their mental and physical health through the patching. I just hope to touch someone and help them so that they would be compelled to reach out and try, Because I just know, I know I'm on the other side, right, I know the difference it can make and there are so many people hurting, even people with very serious mental health issues, veterans with very I mean there's just not enough ways we can support them. They give so much. So, yeah, I just hope that people reach out and they try and they then get to experience such improvement in their mental and physical health.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for sharing the on, but thank you for all of your podcasts, for all of the energy and time that you put into sharing with the world. It's. You give a gift every day and I don't know if you get enough thanks for that, so I just want to be one to thank you for using the alchemy in your life and sharing that gold with everybody else. You didn't just keep it for yourself, you're sharing it out, so thank you for doing that. And you know, walking the path of the vulnerability, of joy and grief, being that lived experience and showing modeling to people the way it can look. So thank you for that, darlene. That's very gracious. Please remember to be kind to yourself. Hey, you made it all the way here. I appreciate you and your time.
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