Cancer As My Greatest Teacher: Lessons in Self-Love and Emotional Healing

A cancer diagnosis at 34 changed everything for fashion designer Shruti Sethi. What began as a devastating health crisis transformed into a profound journey of self-discovery that completely reshaped her understanding of healing, purpose, and self-love.

When doctors told Shruti she had Hodgkin's lymphoma, she found herself asking deeper questions than her medical team was prepared to answer. Rather than simply accepting traditional treatments, she wanted to understand why her body had developed cancer in the first place. This curiosity led her down a path of holistic healing that would ultimately save not just her body, but reconnect her with her authentic self.

Through our conversation, Shruti reveals the unexpected gifts hidden within her cancer journey. She discovered that years of people-pleasing, chronic stress, and disconnection from her body had created the perfect conditions for illness. By integrating nutritional changes, meditation, breathwork, and emotional healing alongside conventional treatments, she achieved remission after just four chemotherapy sessions—and has remained cancer-free for eight years without radiation.

What makes this episode particularly powerful is Shruti's vulnerability around the emotional patterns she's observed in herself and the cancer patients she now coaches. Women with breast and ovarian cancers often share histories of low self-esteem, difficult relationships, and patterns of over-giving at the expense of their own wellbeing. Through her book "The Healing Power Within" and her wellness platform Awaana Health, Shruti now teaches others that reconnection with the body's wisdom is the true path to healing.

Whether you're facing a health challenge or simply feeling disconnected from your authentic self, this conversation offers practical wisdom for coming home to yourself. As Shruti poignantly shares, "When you love yourself, you can equally love another person—but you also have your boundaries." Join us for this beautiful exploration of how our greatest challenges can become our most profound teachers.
Connect with Shruti here : www.awaanahealth.com/

Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome to Lift One Self
• 0:36 Meeting Shruti: Cancer at 34
• 5:21 Root Causes: Inflammation and Stress
• 9:56 Holistic Healing Journey
• 11:21 Mindful Moment: Breath Awareness
• 14:18 Self-Love and Personal Transformation
• 20:09 Working with Cancer Patients
• 31:33 The Healing Power Within
• 36:35 Sharing Resources and Final Intentions
• 40:36 Closing Remarks and Call to Action

Transcript

NatNat: 0:00

Welcome to the Lift One Self podcast, where we break mental health stigmas through conversations. I'm your host, nat Nat, and we dive into topics about trauma and how it impacts the nervous system. Yet we don't just leave you there. We share insights and tools of self-care, meditation and growth that help you be curious about your own biology. Your presence matters. Please like and subscribe to our podcast. Help our community grow. Let's get into this. Oh, and please remember to be kind to yourself.

Shruti Sethi: 0:36

Welcome to the Lift One Self podcast. I'm your host, nat Nat, and today I have a special guest and I hope I say her name properly Shruti, and we're going to get into the conversation of cancer and she's going to speak about her own journey and I'm going to pose some questions also because many of you know, I just came out of a two year journey of supporting Natalie in her cancer journey and she transitioned on November 27th. So I'm interested in hearing you know the experience that Shruti has gone through and what she's bringing forth for other people that are going through their journey and experience of life. So, shruti, could you explain yourself to the listeners and introduce a little bit of who you are, your experience and we can go from there.

Speaker 3: 1:31

Yes, natalie, thank you so much. First of all, pray for your friend. I'm sure she is at a better place and much more feeds me now. So my journey I'm Shruti Sethi and my journey. I'm hi. I'm shruti seti and my journey starts. I would say I've gotten a new birth on in to the end the year 2016, when I actually got diagnosed with cancer.

Speaker 3: 1:55

Of course, my world flipped upside down. It was absolutely devastating news at the age of 34, where you know when you're really focused on the career and I was actually a fashion designer back then. I had my own label, I was doing my own things and all of a sudden, you get these diagnoses where there was no history I mean, there was no cancer history in my family and there was some major happening with regards to my health and major hospitalizations. The doctors never told me I could have cancer. I never had this organization, so it was a little too much to take in. I was also through a divorce. That time I separated. I don't know what what god wants me to be like, fighting me everywhere and when, especially going through financial issues and the relationship issue and the health issue, like what the damn thing is happening in my life. Am I really? I mean, is my time I? I obviously thought like extreme thing that what does god want for me? All these questions starts to come up. Why me, why me? It was very a lot to take, but you know you have to go through the things like you have to go to the doctors and I was alone, I was, my parents were here in india, india, and I was in India. That time you have to go to the doctors and the doctors tell you the usual thing chemo, radiation. You have to go through the treatment and all they talk is treatment, treatment, treatment. But if they never talk, how did you get there? What is the root cause?

Speaker 3: 3:45

I was more interested in why did my body get cancer in the first place? You have to, I had to really. Now there's a lot of information podcast and Google can show you so many things. But back then I didn't have very few people who were opening up or few groups where they were all talking about holistically and things. I was more interested in all that Because when you go to the hospital, you know, when you see the scene in the oncologist's office, you see the people there. First of all, they're so sad or as if there's no life in them and I didn't need to sit there. I used to get like like overwhelmed by seeing what's going on the hospitals, like even if I go through this, I don't want to come back again and again. So my journey actually it was a very I was anxious about things that okay, I have to go through chemo, my hair will go and my skin I look a certain way because you look into the magazine, you look at the articles and look at the movies people going through cancer and it's so miserable so that movie was playing in my mind again and again. Then Then I started talking to more and more people about. You know why did I?

Speaker 3: 5:08

I was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma, which is a mutable cancer. I didn't know what a mutable cancer back then. What the hell is this? But then, researching and taking responsibility in my hands, I understood that cancer actually doesn't happen in a second. It takes almost a decade, or more than a decade, for your body to come to a stage where the tumor is dead. And I was all my questions with the doctor why wasn't I told about this? Why was I not? What makes your immune system work so that it doesn't kill cancer.

Speaker 3: 5:49

Every day in our lives we develop cancers, our body develops and it kills the cancers. So what was my? Why? Was my body not capable enough? That was my question and that it that actually is very you know, the root cause was inflammation then. Then why inflammation? Because I was. I always had underlying issues, certain health issues which was like very, with the doctor said it's like minuscule, but actually everything comes together together. So gut issues I've had. I've had severe acne, hormonal issues like pcov and uh, I'd had anxiety issues. I've had issues with nausea and nausea, acidity plus, um, a lot of I was always blocked with my nose.

Speaker 3: 6:45

I always was, you know, like I, as if some my sinus. So I also have taken certain heavy medications because of that. So these were certain issues already going on. And when you go to the doctor, all they give you the pill and that's. They never change anything about your lifestyle or anything. And for me, lifestyle was what? Lifestyle was looking good, that's it going to the gym, it's looking physically very good and fit, but nobody was talking about mental health.

Speaker 3: 7:19

You know how stress can actually trigger cancer cells and trigger inflammation. So for me it was like an eye-opener or like, yes, I was looking stressed because of the relationship, because two prior to two years of getting cancer I was going to extreme stress which I didn't realize that I. I was really depressed. I so not sleeping well two years because of all these things going on in my life. And I I had my vitamin d levels like strikingly and when I looked at the other parameters they were also very low and heavy metals in my body and stuff and I was like why am I? My normal doctors do not tell me, ask me to do a test and it still persists today, doctors, until unless you ask for taking vitamin b panel. Nobody will do it. So I, you know, I had like, okay, you know what doctors will do whatever they want. I have to integrate all these holistic modalities and functional modalities into my life because it's my life, not the doctors will tell you okay, just go away after the treatment. But it was also for me to not have a relapse again because, again, when you look, I clearly remember those stories in the hospital when women were taking second time treatment and third time line of treatment because the cancer was coming back and all I asked most of the people, what did you do after cancer? And they said nothing, the doctor didn't advise and they were taking, eating all processed foods while taking treatment. It something didn't seem right. So of course, I went to a lot of people like I worked with a nutritionist, I worked with someone to take care of my mental health, I worked with so many natural healers and practitioners, naturopaths, so all of these together made me so much resilient and strong that in four kins the cancer was absolutely gone. And I wondered and I started feeling light and I started feeling positive and I started feeling so amazing in my body. I started working again and I started feeling positive and I started feeling so amazing in my body. I started working again and I was just like on top of my you know. So I started in corporate yoga and breathfulness and mindfulness techniques. So my mind was calmed down and I was.

Speaker 3: 10:01

I had such a great intuition and I told my doctors listen, now I think I told the doctors I want to get a scan done. Usually the scans get done after the six chemos, but I don't know. I got this intuition. I told the doctors I think I want to get the scans and the scans actually in 14 most sure time cancer and I never took radiation. I told the doctor that something happens. I am going to come back to you, but I need to do this my way and I took a break. I actually changed the city and one year I worked on myself on detoxing my body, my really worked on my mindset, work on my body, and since then I think I'm eight years cancer free and never went to the doctors again and I'm pretty much in good shape. I think I'm the best shape of my life in my 40s, then in my 30s of 20s. I feel great. I'm helping people. There's a purpose in my life. I'm so blessed.

Shruti Sethi: 11:10

So you've told us a lot already about your life story. Before we get into some more, will you join me in a mindful moment so we can ground ourselves in our breath?

Speaker 3: 11:20

Absolutely.

Shruti Sethi: 11:20

I would love that. Okay, and for the listeners, as you always hear, safety first. So please don't close your eyes if you're driving or need your visual, yet the other prompts you can follow through. So, shruti, if you feel comfortable in your seating and if it's safe to do so, gently close your eyes and you're going to begin breathing in and out through your nose, bringing your awareness to watching your breath, not controlling it, just letting it have its own natural rhythm, allowing it to guide you in the body. There may be sensations or feelings coming up, and that's okay. Let them come up. You're safe to feel. You're safe to let go.

Shruti Sethi: 12:13

Surrender the need to control, release the need to resist and just be, be with your breath, drop deeper into your body. Be with your breath, drop deeper into your body. Now there may be some thoughts or to-do lists that may have popped up in your mind, and that's okay. That means the mind's working. Yet bring the awareness back to your breath, creating space between the awareness and the thoughts and dropping even deeper into the body, being in the space of being. Again, more thoughts may have popped up. Gently, bring your awareness back to your breath, creating even more space between the awareness and the thoughts and completely dropping into the body, into presence, into being. You may have noticed the rhythm of your breath has changed. It's just about being now coming back into your senses, into the present moment, at your own time and at your own pace. You're going to gently open your eyes while staying with your breath. How's your heart doing?

Speaker 3: 13:58

It's so calming and so beautiful exercise. I always love grounding.

Shruti Sethi: 14:07

Now I have a question what did cancer teach you about love loving your body, loving your breath, loving life?

Speaker 3: 14:18

Yeah, actually, you know, I feel that it. First of of all, it gave me space to think, because I was just going through life as if it's always about achievements, always about achieving this or thinking about future how am I going to spend, spend this, and how am I going to spend, spend this? How am I going to acquire this much amount of wealth, name, fame, everything because I was never living in the moment, was always either thinking about the past or the future. So it was like, you know, as if god is telling me take a break from everything, just relax. And I it was very anxious for me at those times. I didn't have anything to do. All I had to do stuff, because your body needs rest, and for for a couple of days I was not able to. You know, I was as if like somebody put me in this in a box, locked it and I don't have anything to do. But then, you know, that's how breath, work and yoga and doing small little things for myself helped me. It didn't change me all of a sudden, but it took some time and I realized that, oh my god, I do not love myself. All I am doing is either to do something to please someone or validate something, but what about my own feeling? What about what I like to do when I am with myself? I don't enjoy my company ever and when, with cancer, when I was with myself, I realized, oh my god, I'm not enjoying what's happening like I'm not myself with myself, and then it struck me that I do not love myself anymore, and that was something that was because you know all my relationships. Uh, if I talk about my romantic relationships, if I talk about all these aspects of relationship, it was always about the other person. I had to give and give and then I obviously there's a give and take, but I never thought about my own feelings, and that's how sometimes I've gone through a lot of views and stuff and still I was. I thought maybe there's something wrong with me. So during that period it was so crucial for me to to give that love to myself and I realized self-love is so, so, so important before even getting into any other relationship or getting into other stuff.

Speaker 3: 17:15

Understanding, I know it led a lot of people in my life that time, but I would say some people who I thought I had given a lot of time, effort and energy with them. They actually disappeared from my life. That was a very like. It gave me such an. Obviously it gave me pinches and it was painful, but to let go of it. But then I realized that people who really like you and love you will never leave you, no matter what, whatever you're going through.

Speaker 3: 17:50

And people who are just temporary they're just there for a season and for a reason. That's because you have to learn certain lessons. You have to teach them certain lessons. So you have to let go and you don't have to ask them to like you know, I'm always like going up behind them and asking them are you okay or something's going wrong with you? Why are you talking to me? I always wanted that attention. That also slowly shifted away and I realized that my this is I have to work on myself and that's why I took that one year break to realize my what is that I need, what are my priorities and how can I give that love to myself which I was actually actually giving to others before. So that was very important lesson I feel working with love is for me is something. First I need to give it to myself before sharing it with any other human being, because I feel when you love yourself, you can equally love the other person. I think more than that. But you also have your boundaries.

Speaker 3: 19:04

Exactly I want to ask.

Shruti Sethi: 19:08

Oh, do you hear that feedback? No, there was a bit of feedback. I was hearing myself. Sorry, I was hearing myself. I want to ask when was the moment that you discovered healing wasn't about just surviving cancer. It was about returning home to yourself.

Speaker 3: 19:28

It took me some time because initially you are swayed by information about treatments and you know the physical aspect of it treatments and you know the physical aspect of it. But when you sit and realize you know certainly all of these things are happening and when you, when I started reading books, especially book you can heal your life by losing, that actually really gave me such an important aspect about emotions and how your childhood influences your values in your adulthood.

Speaker 3: 20:09

So I was like, oh my god, I had to go back to my childhood to understand what had happened to me as as, as a little girl, and where are my values coming from? And how did I have these limited beliefs about myself? I've always had limited beliefs on on and always have these people pleasing quality, which was actually a birth from my childhood which I realized. And then it's funny, we are not taught this in school about how to develop these life skills and very later in life some people don't even realize. But cancer actually gave me that platform. I would say I'm so grateful for cancer because I realized anything which I would have realized later in my age. I I'm a very different person now and like, of course, coaching people and stuff. But if I always said like, if you could understand the reason life is happening for you and not to you, you can take away very important lessons and you can transform yourself so easily. So that's something which was like when I started accepting that life is happening for me. There's a reason behind that cancer is happening. What is the reason? Just because we always want instant gratification. I want to know now. I want to know now, like I was like I want to know now what's happening. That never. You can never get certain answers all of a sudden, but there's a process. When you go through the process you will understand.

Speaker 3: 21:54

Now I know why I had cancer and what was the reason behind it, but that there are certain processes and when you go through those processes they're painful, yes, but they are like.

Speaker 3: 22:06

For me, pain is, uh, nothing more than you know incoming blessings they are, they are a process of coming incoming blessings.

Speaker 3: 22:16

So when you go through that process and I had to go through that process when you realize that cancer journey, that when I was sitting with, uh, with with one of the homeopath doctors and all he did was, before giving me any medication or before answers, before even I wanted to ask him certain questions, all he did was he shut me in a room with a camera in my face and he asked me certain questions about my personal life and he gave me that space that I could cry out, cry out all my stuck emotions, and I felt so light up, so so light.

Speaker 3: 22:56

Then he told me something very important that now you can journey starts, now you'll become cancer free. And those words that was in the middle of my treatment. How can he tell me, like, why? And then after a few days I realized that impact of getting rid of those stuck emotions and getting rid of that anger, that fear in me. It created space in my body and in my mind. So it's very important to also let go of your emotions and the fear and the anger and the frustration.

Speaker 3: 23:44

Sometimes you don't know how to, but that's how you need help of people, coaches or practitioners, and it makes your life easier, like it made my life easier when I started working with different modalities. You have to understand what, what suits you. So for me it was all of these. Mindfulness, yoga and meditation.

Speaker 3: 24:10

Changing completely, going whole plant-based also gave me um of a lot of you know, I I started feeling very light in my body first of all, and I started feeling, you know, like this anxiety was gone in my body.

Speaker 3: 24:26

I didn't have any, I was calmed down, it was very calm and I feel that what you become, what you eat, you know the first thing is to change the nutrition, because it's very important to each morphine of food which you take in becomes your cell, goes to the cellular, comes your mitochondria. So I was very careful in in that and I I started getting an insight of what it is doing to my body. Now, all of these things I would say you know, slowly and gradually, I mean all of a sudden, you don't realize, but during the process I realized that, yes, I have come to myself and I I started getting more intuitive about my body and myself and because I was, I it's I was slowing down, really living in that moment I got it. Otherwise, if you're just living a fast-paced life and always in that fight-and-flight mode, I don't think I would have come to myself and realized all these certain things.

Shruti Sethi: 25:38

So you've worked with a lot of people that have chronic illness. Yes, what's the one emotional or energetic pattern that you see, um those struggle with, and what is the shift that finally opens the door for them to enter into the healing?

Speaker 3: 26:00

yeah. So generally I would say, if I have to talk about, I work with a lot of breast cancer and ovarian cancer patients and one question when I ask them is what were you doing two years or three years prior? Most of the women have suffered with low self-esteem. They had terrible relationships with, like romantic relationships or relationship their parents has been in strange and they're they're always. The self-love for themselves is very, very low because of self-esteem. They've always been so caring and over givers that they didn't realize. Like I've had a woman who actually knew she had a tumor when she was in America but she never told because of COVID and because she thought that it would be too much for her family to handle and then it delayed doctors to find and then it became stage four. So I feel, uh, when we talk to them and then make them realize that you've always been in this giving modality, now you forgive yourself, work on yourself. It doesn't mean that you just shut off everything and you don't whatever you've been doing, but just take some, some hours for the for in a day for yourself and your own healing, do things which you like and work on your mindset like feeling validated only because somebody you give or somebody does for you is something is not, uh, actual self-love. So it's also not going to just going to a parlor and getting your deals done. It's like how are you enjoying your company and how are you when you're walking, how are you feeling? So that actually made a lot of sense to a lot of women.

Speaker 3: 28:04

So I'm working with someone who got a relapse of ovarian. She's very young and when I talked to her she's she's coming from a very great, good family and everything which two beautiful daughters. And when I started working on her mental health. So one question which I asked what do you see yourself in the next few years? And then she told me I've never thought about this because all she has thought about her husband, daughters. So she doesn't know where she wants to stand in the next few years in her life. So I've I've also done this exercise with myself when I was going through cancer, like visualization how do I see myself in the next five years? And those answers didn't come on all of a sudden, but I saw myself helping others. I don't know in what I wanted to help when I really told like I will.

Speaker 3: 29:02

I have always had conversations with god or you know you're in higher energy, higher power, whatever with myself, that god, if I get well, I'm definitely going to go out and help someone with this information I have gathered because it took a lot of patience, a lot of troubles for me to go out and talk to people, in spite of all all the things I was going through, and it just happened very organically for me. You know, those seeds were soaked in in of me helping others and automatically the doors opened for me. So I always tell women that have that. You know that because cancer gives you uncertainty, you know, find those certain moments in your day like I loved. I started my journey of meditation during cancer visualization and those were my really happy moments because I saw myself doing like traveling or going to places, walking on the beach. It really made a difference. Uh, gave me happiness and when you come into that vibration of happiness in a few moments it changes. It changes a lot of things it does, it does.

Shruti Sethi: 30:24

You wrote a book called the healing power within, or the yeah, the healing power within. You emphasize tuning into the body for someone feeling overwhelmed or disconnected. What's the very first step? To begin with?

Speaker 3: 30:41

You know what grounding exercise we did right now, I think it's the best way to understand that, because a lot of people, I ask them, you can't even sit still Right and when you work with your breath, like you said, you don't just work with your breath, let the thoughts come in, do not really push your thoughts away. I think that for me also, that changed because I was, I was never into yoga. I was always going to the gym or doing things because I felt I just can't remain in this one posture for a long. It's made me very uh, since I had anxiety. It made me more anxious, so I don't can.

Speaker 3: 31:23

So then I, I I'm like, then I tell them, or then I ask people to just first connect with your breath, because most I'll tell you, 80 to 90 percent of the people are not even breathing correctly. Right, because I take the yoga sessions and meditation sessions and I check how they're breathing. They're not even breathing correctly. So, and I was not breathing correctly with my yoga teacher actually corrected me.

Speaker 3: 31:51

So first thing is to connect with your breath, really connect with the breath. That's the first thing which you could do, and the second thing I feel which people could also do is just listen to any some sort of a mantra or just to OM, because OM is a universal sound that connects you, that connects you to higher power, that connects you to balances, all your chakras, the seven energy centers. It's very simple you can just plug in on youtube, start that, start humming it together. That will also make a big energy shift in your mind and body. I think these two simple things, if anybody's tried that, that would be the first step they could do towards connection now, what would your past self say to you right now?

Shruti Sethi: 32:52

oh, I love this question.

Speaker 3: 32:56

Uh, my past self would say I'm pretty proud of you. I'm very, very proud of you. Look what you've achieved, look where you were, and now you are helping others and living such a satisfactory life. I wish I was that you which you are right now. I could have done one more, but it's okay. I think the past, I would embrace my past and the present as well, because if I was not that person, I would have not overcome the things, and you know that that whole journey was so beautiful, as a I would say caterpillar to becoming that butterfly. Yeah, and people are afraid of taking pain, people are afraid of failures. I would say that's such a you know when, when you go back in your life and you say you overcome such immense things and pain and failures in your life, that's something which is, which is a story to remember, not like your achievements or your wealth or even that will not give you that much satisfaction. You know this.

Speaker 3: 34:09

Uh, I remember when I was in the hospital towards talking to cancer patients who were given no time and they were all talking. They never talked about their children, they never talked how much wealth I have. All they said that I wish I had started earlier, and that's something which really stayed in my heart. When I work with people who are in their 70s, who are in their late 60s, 70s, 80s, I see the mistakes they had done and they're not taking care of their health and their mind. It's like a waking call for me too. It gives me energy to push myself, push my boundaries and work more towards my well-being.

Shruti Sethi: 34:58

Now what would your future say? Future self tell you about fear, oh wow future self I said.

Speaker 3: 35:10

I think my future self said there's no point in fear. Fear is just a very, very, it's just in your mind and you have that strength and capability to overcome anything, and fear is a very artificial thing which is more, which is given more by your family or friends, because they don't know about your journey, so just don't talk to them about it or just don't listen to them. You have everything and anything. If you want, you can achieve certain things. So don't let fear come on your way to any, to your success and I've done this before in my uh, and you've done this in your past as well, because you thought that this will fear you out and you overcame that and hence you can do anything. So don't let fear come in your way of achieving things.

Shruti Sethi: 36:27

Now I know many of the listeners have heard a lot, so are you able to let them know where they can find you and what you have to offer, and even with the book?

Speaker 3: 36:37

Absolutely so. My book is available on Amazon. It's called the Healing Power within, by shruti seti, and I am. My website is called avana health. It's a w a a n a h e l t h dot com. I am on all social medias on instagram, facebook, anybody who wants to contact me. I do personal transformation sessions. I also have a group of community where we do free sessions, especially with cancer patients. We meditate together. We have these beautiful webinars on different topics. So whoever wants to join my community, please find me on Instagram, ping me, give me a shout out and I definitely will get back to you.

Shruti Sethi: 37:24

Now, what's one intention? You'd like to leave a listener that's listening in right now.

Speaker 3: 37:32

My main intention and I would say you know I really want to reach out to one, two million people and help them remain cancer free and tell them that you know cancer can be. 90 of the cancer can be prevented. It's just that you have to do consistent steps towards it. And if you are, because you know it's not always easy to go through that journey you you've seen it with your friend. It takes a lot of courage, takes a lot of and sometimes it's very difficult for certain types of cancer to reverse it.

Speaker 3: 38:09

So why wait for cancer to happen? It's, it's a. It's not a disease. It's not a happy disease. To have any disease will matter, but this one is like it will. It will burn your pockets, it will burn. It will also affect your friends, family. So and remember and always understand that you know your dna changes a lot of changes. What are we leaving behind for our future generations? It's been said that in 2050, one in 5 persons is going to get cancer again. So the gravity is huge. It is getting worse and worse. Younger people are getting cancer and you lose a lot of time and effort and energy. So why not do these simple things for prevention every day of our lives and live a little more conscious life so that we remain that matter, so that I my intention is only to help people in and inform that that cancer can be prevented. And please look into your lifestyle. I have a thorough checkup done twice a year and always understand what's going on and in tune with yourself and your body.

Shruti Sethi: 39:30

I want to thank you for doing the alchemy in your life. You've taken impurities and you've turned them into gold, yet you didn't keep the gold for yourself. You're sharing it with others by, you know, offering services and education and holding space for others, so I really want to thank you for the light that you're shining in the world. It's really has been a pleasure to be in your space and hear your story thank you so much, natalie.

Speaker 3: 39:58

It means a lot and thank you so much for doing these podcasts. And they say you're one of the people like you help us to share a story with our, your listeners. Anybody who's going through cancer or anybody is going to certain diseases. If they take one or two things from that, they can totally change. So thank you for really doing this and being a light worker in this dark world.

Shruti Sethi: 40:28

You're welcome. Please remember to be kind to yourself Absolutely. Hey, you made it all the way here. I appreciate you and your time. If you found value in this conversation, please share it out. If there was somebody that popped into your mind, take action and share it out with them it possibly may not be them that will benefit.

NatNat: 40:52

It's that they know somebody that will benefit from listening to this conversation. So please take action and share out the podcast.

Shruti Sethi: 41:01

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NatNat: 41:21

Until next time, please remember to be kind and gentle with yourself. You matter.